(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
PW[Lecture]PB[7]DT[2007-09-23]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[ic][lc][pc][dd][ed][hd][le][pf][dj][hj][cl][gm]LB[pd:A][pe:B][df:1][hf:2][lg:3][ph:4][cn:5][go:6]TR[da][ea][db][eb][dc][ec]C[Lecture 7 Beginner Lecture

Topics-

Basic Shape - Good and Bad shapes
Capturing stones- How to best capture stones
Basic Opening - Corner Enclosures + Basic joseki
Basic Endgame - How do I best finish off the borders?
HonFu [3k\]: hi ^^
tenseiga [9k\]: hi
yithril [1d\]: yo
Iink [-\]: hi
JOmega [16k\]: thanks for giving us a lecture, yithril!
Iink [-\]: I thanks as well
Iink [-\]: lol
zatawiziOu [16k\]: hi
yithril [1d\]: so this is lecture 7 of Yithril's sunday lectures
yithril [1d\]: you can get the sgf file for this lecture as well as previous lectures
yithril [1d\]: ttp://www.umich.edu/~goclub/index.html under resources.
yithril [1d\]: i do lectures on various subjects
yithril [1d\]: so by popular demand today will be devoted to things beginners should know
zatawiziOu [16k\]: k
yithril [1d\]: i aimed this lecture at about 15 kyu and below
yithril [1d\]: so its very basic stuff, but strong players might benefit from a bit of review
yithril [1d\]: we'll be covering basic shape
yithril [1d\]: then capturing stones
yithril [1d\]: some basic endgame
yithril [1d\]: and then ill go a little into the opening
yithril [1d\]: lets first start off with shape
yithril [1d\]: here we have 6 different shapes and it is vital to have an understanding of them when u play
yithril [1d\]: when we make good shapes our stones remain strong and it becomes very easy to make territory whether its just surrounding it or attacking our opponent.
yithril [1d\]: it also makes defense easy because our opponent will have an extremely difficult time trying to counterattack if we have few to no weaknesses
yithril [1d\]: shape is highly important
yithril [1d\]: here i have listed some basic shapes
yithril [1d\]: in order of speed
yithril [1d\]: by speed, im referring to how much distance the stones cover in two moves
yithril [1d\]: slower moves are closer together while faster moves are further apart
yithril [1d\]: shape 1 is the iron pillar
yithril [1d\]: the slowest
yithril [1d\]: while 4 and 6 are much faster
yithril [1d\]: but further apart
yithril [1d\]: when we want to play a faster move we sacrifice shape
yithril [1d\]: when we play a slower move we sacrifice speed
yithril [1d\]: in ur game you need to know when to play a faster or slower move and be aware of the pitfalls of each
yithril [1d\]: we'll begin with the first shape
yithril [1d\]: the iron pillar
yithril [1d\]: as far as connectivity
yithril [1d\]: its the strongest
yithril [1d\]: black is connected no way to break the stones apart
yithril [1d\]: problem is
yithril [1d\]: the amount of space these two stones cover is quite small
yithril [1d\]: as we move onto the faster shapes
yithril [1d\]: the next one being 2
yithril [1d\]: the kosumi
yithril [1d\]: or diagonal
yithril [1d\]: its a tad bit weaker
yithril [1d\]: there is a space in between at a that could be a problem
yithril [1d\]: shape number 5 is the keima
yithril [1d\]: or knights move
yithril [1d\]: its speedier than shape 1 or 2
yithril [1d\]: but
yithril [1d\]: its got weakness
yithril [1d\]: even more so than the one space jump
yithril [1d\]: the weakness of the keima is the "waist"
yithril [1d\]: these two spots
yithril [1d\]: because
yithril [1d\]: 4 and 6 are much the same
yithril [1d\]: they're even further away from each other
yithril [1d\]: so its easier for white to pry the two stones apart
jhouse [3k\]: For #5, it's probably good to explicitly mention the ladder
yithril [1d\]: anyone not know what a ladder is?
yithril [1d\]: cuz im going to go over that later
Iink [-\]: no, cuz he can also kill c10 
jhouse [3k\]: 15k's might not see them immediately, that's my point
yithril [1d\]: so back to the other shapes
yithril [1d\]: 6 is the large keima
yithril [1d\]: and like the small keima its weakness is the waist
yithril [1d\]: depending on the stones around
yithril [1d\]: these could all be weaknesses
yithril [1d\]: but it takes stones around to exploit
yithril [1d\]: similiarly with 4
yithril [1d\]: these spots could be problems
yithril [1d\]: whether or not these spaces actually work for white
yithril [1d\]: is up to ur reading ability
yithril [1d\]: nothing replaces actual reading
yithril [1d\]: but if you are more familiar with shapes then ur eyes can focus on certain spots
yithril [1d\]: it'll give you a starting point to begin reading
yithril [1d\]: am i clear so far?
HonFu [3k\]: I can follow you ^_°
Bisector [?\]: yes
Iink [-\]: yep
Iink [-\]: =\]
yithril [1d\]: how about hte actual beginners ;)
yithril [1d\]: weve got some 16 kyus and some 14 kyus here
yithril [1d\]: good showing of ddks
yithril [1d\]: if u are confused ill go back
Radley [8k\]: The 1st line ones are worth 4 points miai and the 2nd line ones are worth 8?
]
(;B[]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: black cries and drinks too much
]
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yithril [1d\]: more on shape
yithril [1d\]: we'll first talk about shape number 1
yithril [1d\]: when we evaluate our shape
yithril [1d\]: we need to look at the way its connected
yithril [1d\]: and the way each stone does their job
yithril [1d\]: when i learned go shape #1 was introduced to me as the mouth shape
yithril [1d\]: you can give it any name that makes you giggle
yithril [1d\]: i can see the mouth but maybe some people cant
yithril [1d\]: whats good about thi sshape
yithril [1d\]: is its connectivity
HonFu [3k\]: how about basset's face? ^_°
yithril [1d\]: and its ease of creating eyes
yithril [1d\]: when we examine it closely
yithril [1d\]: we have two iron pillars
yithril [1d\]: slow moves but the most solid
yithril [1d\]: then jutting out from the two iron pillars
yithril [1d\]: is a one space jump
yithril [1d\]: so we have two slow moves
yithril [1d\]: supporting a faster move
yithril [1d\]: shape number 2 is just shape number one without the extra stone
yithril [1d\]: shape number 2 is the table shape
yithril [1d\]: highly connected
yithril [1d\]: very strong
yithril [1d\]: the iron pillar here
yithril [1d\]: supports
yithril [1d\]: the one space jump here
yithril [1d\]: number 3 is a more compact version of number 2
yithril [1d\]: its called the bamboo tube
shanku [16k\]: bamboooooooo
yithril [1d\]: unlike 1 and 2 though
HonFu [3k\]: ^^
yithril [1d\]: its not great in the making eyes department
yithril [1d\]: because its made of two iron pillars and no diagonal moves
yithril [1d\]: however its fantastic for connection
yithril [1d\]: now onto bad shapes
yithril [1d\]: since one of the definitions of good shape is that the shape is well connected
yithril [1d\]: it follows then that bad shape is the opposite
yithril [1d\]: disconnected shapes are bad
yithril [1d\]: number 4 and 5 are classic examples
yithril [1d\]: white is spearing through both black positions
yithril [1d\]: breaking up black into two pieces
yithril [1d\]: avoid these shapes whenever possible
yithril [1d\]: these shapes were formed when b ignored whites attack
yithril [1d\]: and gave white a second move
yithril [1d\]: for example
yithril [1d\]: in this diagram
yithril [1d\]: 5 is even worse than that
yithril [1d\]: 5 black ignored many moves
yithril [1d\]: and is hopelessly disconnected
yithril [1d\]: we move onto 6
yithril [1d\]: and 7
yithril [1d\]: 7 being a very infamous shape
yithril [1d\]: when i first started go
yithril [1d\]: the person teaching me told me never to make number 7
yithril [1d\]: the empty triangle
yithril [1d\]: compare it to 6
yithril [1d\]: which is a full tiriangle
yithril [1d\]: the difference is the marked stone
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: mmmmmmmmmmmm full triangle had dinner
yithril [1d\]: with 6 we are taking away liberties from white
yithril [1d\]: the marked white stone only has 2 liberties meaning he is weak
yithril [1d\]: with 7 we are not squeezing white
yithril [1d\]: the reason this shape is not oftentimes very good is because it becomes very easy to get low on liberties
yithril [1d\]: however i would like to stress
yithril [1d\]: that the attitude of "id rather die than make an empty triangle" is not a good policy
yithril [1d\]: sometimes its the only move
yithril [1d\]: sometimes its a fantastic move
yithril [1d\]: use ur judgement and decide if it is, otherwise, beware of it.
yithril [1d\]: the last shape in this diagram is number 8
yithril [1d\]: in chinese the "elephant eye"
yithril [1d\]: the two marked black stones
yithril [1d\]: have a poor relation ship with each other
yithril [1d\]: if its whites turn he can easily keep black from connecting
shanku [16k\]: how would one and two be formed in an actual game?
yithril [1d\]: clear so far?
yithril [1d\]: aqhh
yithril [1d\]: excellent question
yithril [1d\]: usually these shapes appear in part
yithril [1d\]: and not whole
yithril [1d\]: ud see 2 more so than you would see 1 
yithril [1d\]: in my experience
yithril [1d\]: it largely depends on the type of game
MorpheusZ [12k?\]: 1 is the net itself
yithril [1d\]: i cant generalize however because there are so many situations
yithril [1d\]: if you watch higher level players games
yithril [1d\]: try to pay attention to when these shapes come up
yithril [1d\]: and ask urself what they do
shanku [16k\]: ok
shanku [16k\]: ty
HonFu [3k\]: when an table
HonFu [3k\]: or the best shape
HonFu [3k\]: what was the name
HonFu [3k\]: is in enemy territory
HonFu [3k\]: one eye will not be enough
yithril [1d\]: shape #1?
HonFu [3k\]: yes
yithril [1d\]: mouth
yithril [1d\]: thats the way i learned it
HonFu [3k\]: right
HonFu [3k\]: whats a good follow up
HonFu [3k\]: to get a second eye
HonFu [3k\]: if its really really urgent?
yithril [1d\]: hmm
yithril [1d\]: thats also a bit too general ;)
HonFu [3k\]: same for 3
yithril [1d\]: 3 is hard to make eyes with
yithril [1d\]: because its made up of straight lines
yithril [1d\]: if you try to make one with straight lines
yithril [1d\]: theres no magic bullet
HonFu [3k\]: hmm ...
yithril [1d\]: theres hundreds of examples and situations
HonFu [3k\]: is the horse head a good folow up?
yithril [1d\]: haha
HonFu [3k\]: or a one point rather?
HonFu [3k\]: ^^
yithril [1d\]: could be
yithril [1d\]: one space is reasonable speed and decent shape
yithril [1d\]: if you need such a move then play it
HonFu [3k\]: okay, so I still have to think myself while playing ^_°
HonFu [3k\]: no, thanks Jon!
yithril [1d\]: thats what im hoping for after this lecture
yithril [1d\]: that u think on this subject while u play ;)
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(;AE[dd][ed][jd][od][pd][fe][df][ff][if][kf][of][pf][dk][ik][mk][nk][dl][el][hl][il][jl][ml][nl][em][im][pm][pn][qn]AW[eb][kc][qe][qi][ri][co][cp][ep][mp][np][cq][dr][er][fr]AB[db][fb][ec][jc][lc][mc][qh][oi][pi][qj][do][fo][mo][lp][eq][fq][mq][nq]LB[dd:1][ke:2][of:3][em:4][mm:5]C[HonFu [3k\]: I also have a question
yithril [1d\]: ok
HonFu [3k\]: haha^^yeah, of course
yithril [1d\]: ok lets move on
yithril [1d\]: killing stones
yithril [1d\]: my favorite
yithril [1d\]: the first one we'll just breeze right through
yithril [1d\]: our opponent will try to live with a stone
yithril [1d\]: because he doesnt know its dead
yithril [1d\]: number three is a bit trickier
HonFu [3k\]: but what if white can crawl out
yithril [1d\]: oops forgot to add a stone
yithril [1d\]: next up is 4
yithril [1d\]: the net
yithril [1d\]: or geta in japanese
yithril [1d\]: e4 is captured
yithril [1d\]: what we have to worry about
yithril [1d\]: is if we have a hole in our net
yithril [1d\]: if theres a hole the fish get out
yithril [1d\]: and we have no dinner
yithril [1d\]: that would be bad for black
yithril [1d\]: lastly
yithril [1d\]: the infamous ladder
yithril [1d\]: im not sure what u mean
JOmega [16k\]: ie, W playes D3 ...  you need to play E5 or F4 right away
yithril [1d\]: yeah you should take the stone
JOmega [16k\]: ok, thanks
yithril [1d\]: fill in the hole
]
(;AE[eb][fb][ec][jc][kc][lc][mc][kd][qe][qh][oi][pi][qi][ri][qj][co][do][fo][mo][cp][dp][ep][lp][mp][np][cq][eq][fq][mq][dr][er][fr]AW[db][ob][dc][oc][cd][dd][ld][md][nd][od][de][ee][df][dg][dh][di][cj][dj][bk][cl][kq][nq]AB[cb][pb][cc][pc][bd][pd][qd][rd][sd][ce][cf][cg][ch][bi][ci][bj][ql][qn][po][pp][pq]LB[ge:1][pf:2][mo:3]TR[cb][pb][cc][pc][pd]C[yithril [1d\]: all good so far?
Bisector [?\]: ok
JOmega [16k\]: g2g
cwp7: yup
yithril [1d\]: now a little bit on the endgame
shanku [16k\]: ewwwwwwww
yithril [1d\]: justa little
shanku [16k\]: w won :D
yithril [1d\]: nothing huge
yithril [1d\]: id like people to be aware
yithril [1d\]: of how big the edge is 
yithril [1d\]: and how many points its worth
yithril [1d\]: as well as not falling into beginner pitfalls
yithril [1d\]: lets take 2 first
yithril [1d\]: the difference between 1 and two
yithril [1d\]: is that in 2 the edge black stones have more liberties
yithril [1d\]: and are therefore stronger
yithril [1d\]: wow
yithril [1d\]: almost an hour
yithril [1d\]: ok real quick
yithril [1d\]: i had wanted to do opening stuff but i wanted to keep the lecture to an hour
yithril [1d\]: the border between black and white here
yithril [1d\]: once we reach the end game
yithril [1d\]: is very big
]
(;W[pa]C[yithril [1d\]: white hanes to reduce blacks corner
]
;B[qa]
;W[oa]C[yithril [1d\]: black ataris, white connects
yithril [1d\]: common beginner mistake is to tenuki
shanku [16k\]: s18?
]
(;B[]
;W[qb]C[yithril [1d\]: once white ataris here
yithril [1d\]: weve caught b in a ladder
]
(;B[ra]C[yithril [1d\]: if b were to play this
]
;W[rb]C[yithril [1d\]: hed be dead
])
(;B[rb]
;W[ra]C[yithril [1d\]: even like this
yithril [1d\]: this is a big loss of points
yithril [1d\]: that didnt need to happen
]))
(;B[qb]C[yithril [1d\]: connect
yithril [1d\]: no problems
])
(;B[rb]C[yithril [1d\]: cool too
]
;W[qb]
;B[qc]C[yithril [1d\]: white cant play htere rightg?
]))
(;W[]
(;B[oa]C[yithril [1d\]: i also want you to appreciate how big this is
yithril [1d\]: when black plays here
yithril [1d\]: its sente
yithril [1d\]: meaning he has the intiative
yithril [1d\]: if w plays elsewhere
]
(;W[na]C[yithril [1d\]: it makes more sense for white to protect his territory than to jut watch it be destroyed
]
;B[pa]C[yithril [1d\]: but now white has to defend
yithril [1d\]: or he loses points
]
(;W[nb]C[yithril [1d\]: first off it ends in sente for b
yithril [1d\]: now b made his box bigger
yithril [1d\]: got more points
yithril [1d\]: took some from white
yithril [1d\]: and its his turn again
yithril [1d\]: i.e. ending in sente
])
(;W[]
;B[nb]))
(;W[]
;B[ma]C[yithril [1d\]: its feasible
yithril [1d\]: that black could jump into whites territory
yithril [1d\]: and destroy it
]))
(;B[or]C[yithril [1d\]: to if black gets this
]
;W[nr]
;B[ns]
;W[ms]
;B[os]
;W[lr]C[yithril [1d\]: b is much bigger huh?
]))
(;W[ca]C[shanku [16k\]: b18 :P
]
(;B[ba]C[yithril [1d\]: now we confuse
yithril [1d\]: diagram one with 2
yithril [1d\]: and we think hey if i atari hell connect
]
(;W[da]
;B[bb]C[yithril [1d\]: this is our fantasy
])
(;W[bb]C[yithril [1d\]: white can counter atari
]
(;B[da]C[yithril [1d\]: if we take
]
;W[bc]C[yithril [1d\]: oops
HonFu [3k\]: ^^
yithril [1d\]: white ataris
yithril [1d\]: and now black has all kinds of problems
]
(;B[ca]
;W[ea]C[HonFu [3k\]: I still fall for this in blitz games
yithril [1d\]: this would die
])
(;B[ea]
;W[ca]
;B[cb]C[yithril [1d\]: i saw this a lot in beginner games
yithril [1d\]: b would realize his error and try to run away
]))
(;B[bc]
;W[aa]C[yithril [1d\]: even like this
yithril [1d\]: its still a loss
yithril [1d\]: needless loss of points
])))
(;B[bb]C[yithril [1d\]: prolly like this
yithril [1d\]: since we cant atari
yithril [1d\]: we have to do something else
]))
(;W[or]C[JOmega [16k\]: so you almost NEED the empty triangle there in #1?
shanku [16k\]: i'm willing to stay :D
HonFu [3k\]: me too
yithril [1d\]: does anyone care if i finish?
yithril [1d\]: even if it goes over time
yithril [1d\]: i know u 2 dont
jtbunkers [20k\]: i dont mind
yithril [1d\]: ok then
cwp7: i don't mind.
Radley [8k\]: not at all :-)
yithril [1d\]: okay
yithril [1d\]: so
siso [?\]: That'd be great :)
yithril [1d\]: this move is huge
yithril [1d\]: because
]
(;B[]
;W[qr]C[yithril [1d\]: if b tenukies
yithril [1d\]: (that means to play elsewhere)
yithril [1d\]: white can jump into his territory
yithril [1d\]: easily
]
;B[pr]
;W[ps]C[yithril [1d\]: impossible to cut white
shanku [16k\]: ONOES
])
(;B[pr]C[yithril [1d\]: black will block
yithril [1d\]: then
yithril [1d\]: like in diagram 2
]
;W[ps]C[yithril [1d\]: white can come under
]
;B[qs]
;W[os]
;B[qr]C[yithril [1d\]: now compare this
yithril [1d\]: than in this one
yithril [1d\]: dont miss these spots in the endgame, and instead of trying to duke it out in the middle over like 3 points
yithril [1d\]: appreciate how much you can gain on the side
yithril [1d\]: just by playing simple moves
yithril [1d\]: are we ok to move on?
HonFu [3k\]: okeydokay
jtbunkers [20k\]: yes
cwp7: yup
siso [?\]: Yes.
kerbol [9k\]: sure
shanku [16k\]: okilydokily
])))
(;W[ea]C[yithril [1d\]: e18 is dead
yithril [1d\]: even if white tries to run
yithril [1d\]: its till dead
yithril [1d\]: *still
HonFu [3k\]: dead stones walking
yithril [1d\]: white has 2 libs here
]
;B[fa]C[yithril [1d\]: after black blocks he only has 1
yithril [1d\]: and even after extending he only has 1
yithril [1d\]: white is daed
]
;W[da]
;B[ca])
(;W[kb]C[yithril [1d\]: now number 2 might be a little confusing but white is still dead
yithril [1d\]: i watched some beginner games
yithril [1d\]: earlier this week
yithril [1d\]: and i saw stuff like this
yithril [1d\]: if u get confused
yithril [1d\]: or just dont know
yithril [1d\]: think to urself
yithril [1d\]: "which area is more open?"
yithril [1d\]: if w plays k18 he gets to go out
yithril [1d\]: and then u play something weird
yithril [1d\]: or another place that doesnt kill the stone outright
yithril [1d\]: and ur game falls apart
]
(;B[jb]C[yithril [1d\]: black blocks here
HonFu [3k\]: I have a question about this tipe of crawling
yithril [1d\]: however if we play here
yithril [1d\]: w has no where to go
yithril [1d\]: with n 17
yithril [1d\]: there is no where to go
yithril [1d\]: clean simple kill
yithril [1d\]: but all too often as beginners
]
;W[lb]
;B[mb]
;W[ma]
;B[ka]
;W[la]
;B[na]C[yithril [1d\]: dead
])
(;B[lb]C[yithril [1d\]: or
yithril [1d\]: umm
HonFu [3k\]: should we ever bend down or just keep crawling ahead?
yithril [1d\]: b doesnt play here
HonFu [3k\]: in other cases
yithril [1d\]: depends
yithril [1d\]: id have to see the situation
yithril [1d\]: and read it out
HonFu [3k\]: ah okay
yithril [1d\]: for the purposes of this lecture
yithril [1d\]: we're just dealing with these basic shapes
yithril [1d\]: keep them in mind when u play
yithril [1d\]: see when they apply and when they dont
]
;W[jb]C[JOmega [16k\]: oops
yithril [1d\]: m18 is entirely the wrong way t oblock
])
(;B[]
;W[jb]
(;B[ib]C[yithril [1d\]: if we try to block him
]
;W[ic]
;B[jd]
;W[hb]C[yithril [1d\]: one of the stones we played to block him dies
])
(;B[ic]
;W[ib]LB[jd:A][ld:B]C[yithril [1d\]: this is not necesarily a sure fire kill either
yithril [1d\]: white still can crawl and gain liberties
yithril [1d\]: maybe link up to a group
yithril [1d\]: or maybe try to cut us
yithril [1d\]: this is not clear
]))
(;B[le]))
(;AB[rj]C[yithril [1d\]: here
yithril [1d\]: if b plays
yithril [1d\]: he can kill
]
(;W[rh]C[yithril [1d\]: if its white turns
]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]C[yithril [1d\]: w can come out
]
;B[rf]
;W[qf]LB[re:1][sf:2]C[yithril [1d\]: trying to cut fails
yithril [1d\]: w has 3 libs
yithril [1d\]: b has 2
])
(;W[]C[yithril [1d\]: if its b turn
]
(;B[rh]C[yithril [1d\]: you could kill like this or
])
(;B[qf]C[yithril [1d\]: kill likethis
]
;W[rh]
;B[rg]C[yithril [1d\]: now white dead
]))
(;AE[rj]C[yithril [1d\]: for instance here
HonFu [3k\]: wow never saw that bump
]
;W[]
;B[qf]C[yithril [1d\]: this threatens to kill the marked stones because
]
(;W[]
;B[rj]
;W[rh]
;B[rg]C[yithril [1d\]: after blocking
yithril [1d\]: w dies
])
(;W[rj]
;B[pe]C[yithril [1d\]: w would have to escape and b gets another move
])))
(;W[eo]
;B[en]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]C[yithril [1d\]: dead
])
(;AE[fo]AW[dq]
;W[]
;B[fo]C[yithril [1d\]: now if we try to net
yithril [1d\]: oops
shanku [16k\]: and cuts :P
]
;W[fp]C[yithril [1d\]: atari
]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]C[yithril [1d\]: white gets out
])
(;W[]
;B[op]
;AE[qh][oi][pi][qi][ri][qj]C[yithril [1d\]: first off
JOmega [16k\]: question.
yithril [1d\]: yhes
JOmega [16k\]: on the net then - if the "hole" is filled, take in the white stone wuickly?
JOmega [16k\]: quick*
yithril [1d\]: first thing about ladders
yithril [1d\]: read them
yithril [1d\]: always
yithril [1d\]: dont be lazy about it
yithril [1d\]: practice if need be
yithril [1d\]: but they must be read out
yithril [1d\]: its vital you know if stones can be captured in a ladder or not
yithril [1d\]: especially at the beginner level
yithril [1d\]: when people dont read ladders out
yithril [1d\]: and try to take a stone that cant be taken or try to run with stones that are dead ;)
yithril [1d\]: second thing to keep in mind
yithril [1d\]: and im just going to say this in the abstract because this could be a subject in and of itself
yithril [1d\]: is that you need to watch out for ladder breakers
]
(;W[no]
;B[nn]
;W[oo]
;B[po]
;W[on]
;B[om]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]
;W[pm]
;B[pl]
;W[qm]
;B[rm]
;W[ql]
;B[qk]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[sl]
;B[sk]
;W[sm]
;B[sn])
(;AW[pm]LB[pm:1]C[shanku [16k\]: p3!
yithril [1d\]: if there is an enemy stone in its path
yithril [1d\]: a common strategy
yithril [1d\]: will be to have a ladder shape
yithril [1d\]: and play a ladder breaker
yithril [1d\]: forcing ur opponent to capture
]
(;W[no]
;B[nn]
;W[oo]
;B[po]
;W[on]
;B[pn]
;W[om]LB[mn:1][lo:2][pp:3][lq:5][oq:4]C[yithril [1d\]: the ladder is broken
yithril [1d\]: white is fine
yithril [1d\]: but black
yithril [1d\]: 5 cutting points
yithril [1d\]: and only one move to protect 
yithril [1d\]: b will fall apart
])
(;W[]
;B[no]
;W[qm]C[yithril [1d\]: and then getting a second move
yithril [1d\]: that is a much more complicated technique
yithril [1d\]: but even as a beginner you should be aware of ladder breakers
yithril [1d\]: ok so far?
HonFu [3k\]: Jon, one question about reading em out: cant we cant just do the zig zag thing with our eyes?
yithril [1d\]: ur reading it
shanku [16k\]: once you get close to other stones
shanku [16k\]: you should add in the black stones though
HonFu [3k\]: good advice!
]))))
(;AE[fe]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: love tables
yithril [1d\]: once we take that away its the same shape
])
(;W[jf]C[yithril [1d\]: if white tries to come in at the weakness
]
;B[jg]
;W[je]
;B[ie]
;W[ke]
;B[le])
(;W[qe]C[yithril [1d\]: if w tries to play something to try and break black apart
yithril [1d\]: b can ignore
]
;B[]
;W[pe]
;B[oe]C[yithril [1d\]: and if w attempts to cut black
yithril [1d\]: black just blocks
yithril [1d\]: no problems
])
(;W[eq]C[yithril [1d\]: the weakness of this shape is here
yithril [1d\]: right in the middle
]
;B[ep]
;W[fq]C[yithril [1d\]: white can walk through black
])
(;C[HonFu [3k\]: I would try n16 first, but thats not enough
yithril [1d\]: eyes are made up of diagonal moves
])
(;C[yithril [1d\]: it takes more moves
]))
(;W[]
;AE[ic][lc][pc][ed][hd][le][pf][dj][hj][cl][gm]AB[qd][co][qq]LB[cc:1][pf:2][eo:3][oq:4]
;B[])
(;W[dk]C[yithril [1d\]: attacking at the waist
]
;B[]
;W[ck]C[yithril [1d\]: if black does nothing white will walk through black
]
;B[ek]
;W[dl]C[yithril [1d\]: there is no connecting
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch
yithril [1d\]: black is split in half
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: :'(
])
(;W[md]C[yithril [1d\]: similarly
yithril [1d\]: white peeps here
]
;B[]
;W[ld]C[yithril [1d\]: ouch
yithril [1d\]: in this case
]
;B[kd]C[yithril [1d\]: if b tries to defend he has two cutting points
yithril [1d\]: cutting points = weakness because they are discontinuities in your shape
yithril [1d\]: ur opponent can choose which cutting point to play and try to time it so it is bad for you
]))
(;C[yithril [1d\]: wihtout a second movei n a row
yithril [1d\]: white cannot cut black
yithril [1d\]: if white plays here
yithril [1d\]: then we protect our cutting point
yithril [1d\]: at A
yithril [1d\]: otherwise if w plays here
yithril [1d\]: we've split black into 2 groups
yithril [1d\]: and white is also split into two groups
yithril [1d\]: since we only get one move however
yithril [1d\]: it takes a bit of work for white to do this
yithril [1d\]: the next shape is the one space jump
yithril [1d\]: its quite sturdy
yithril [1d\]: but unlike the first two
])
(;B[pp]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]C[yithril [1d\]: if w strikes at the waist
yithril [1d\]: b defends
yithril [1d\]: by trying to link his stones
]
;W[cj]C[yithril [1d\]: but there is a cut
yithril [1d\]: as it stands
yithril [1d\]: this is not severe because
]
;B[ek]C[yithril [1d\]: b  could kill this cutting stone
yithril [1d\]: however if b cannot there might be problmes
])
(;AE[hj][gm]
;B[pp]C[HonFu [3k\]: right
yithril [1d\]: i have no conception of endgame calculation to be honest
yithril [1d\]: i kill them before it gets to that point
Radley [8k\]: ok
]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[cj]
;B[ek]
;W[dl]
;B[dm]
;W[el]
;B[fl]C[yithril [1d\]: as it stands
yithril [1d\]: this will continue
yithril [1d\]: with blakc atari-ing white over and over
yithril [1d\]: until it hits the edge of the board
yithril [1d\]: and w dies
])
(;AE[ic][lc][pc][ed][hd][le][pf][dj][hj][cl][gm]AB[qd][co][qq]LB[dd:B][qd:3][rd:2][sd:1][co:C][qq:D]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: HAHAHAHAHA lol I take a break from studying and see that
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: hehe
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: endgame - double sente first... then sente then reverse senste then big gote
yithril [1d\]: so last subject
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: in general
yithril [1d\]: is the opening (fuseki)
Seakneeboy [8k\]: is there supposed to be audio
yithril [1d\]: here are 4 common opening moves
yithril [1d\]: no
Seakneeboy [8k\]: ok
yithril [1d\]: im typing this time
shanku [16k\]: san san!
shanku [16k\]: :P
yithril [1d\]: A is called the komoku
yithril [1d\]: B is the hoshi or star point
yithril [1d\]: D is the san san or 3,3 point
yithril [1d\]: C is the mokuhazushi 
yithril [1d\]: sometimes people use japanese terms
yithril [1d\]: so just in case uve never heard of them now u know
yithril [1d\]: we'll begin with A
dogberto [?\]: no 5,4s?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: 5-4 also reasonably common and playable
yithril [1d\]: yeah
yithril [1d\]: i just wanted to show some basic josekis
yithril [1d\]: regarding each opening move
yithril [1d\]: in case u dont know
yithril [1d\]: a joseki is a set of standard moves that achieve a relatively even result between B and W
yithril [1d\]: however even is in the eye of the beholder
yithril [1d\]: there are thousands of josekis
yithril [1d\]: im creating my own database of them and ill let you guys know when its done
yithril [1d\]: first off
yithril [1d\]: my own personal advice
yithril [1d\]: 1. never memorize joseki, its totally useless
yithril [1d\]: 2. dont just play joseki cuz its joseki
yithril [1d\]: 3. pick moves u like whether they are joseki or not
yithril [1d\]: joseki are good to learn from
yithril [1d\]: they teach a lot about shape
yithril [1d\]: and when we already know some sequences
yithril [1d\]: we can learn a lot about go theory when we study good players game
yithril [1d\]: s
yithril [1d\]: they are useful
yithril [1d\]: however they do not replace strength in theory or reading
yithril [1d\]: i would say as a beginner
yithril [1d\]: to be familiar with some, but to spend more time doing life and death problems and really working on your reading
yithril [1d\]: the reason im doing it
yithril [1d\]: is because i wanted to show off some joseki that displayed how each corner stone works
yithril [1d\]: so you get a feel of the type of move you're playing instead of just randomly playing in the corner
yithril [1d\]: So we'll begin with A
yithril [1d\]: the komoku
yithril [1d\]: its third line meaning its low
yithril [1d\]: third line and below is low, 4th and above is high
yithril [1d\]: starting from the edge
yithril [1d\]: low moves are good for territory
yithril [1d\]: high moves are good for creating potential and attacking
yithril [1d\]: the komoku has an added bonus
yithril [1d\]: B is the star point, the hoshi stone
yithril [1d\]: its 4th line so its geared towards influence and not territory but it is flexible
yithril [1d\]: we have 3
yithril [1d\]: D
yithril [1d\]: i mean
yithril [1d\]: the 3,3 point
yithril [1d\]: a low move
yithril [1d\]: nestled snuggly in the corner
yithril [1d\]: D makes territory but it can be pressed down
yithril [1d\]: C the mokuhazushi forgoes the corfner
yithril [1d\]: for the side
yithril [1d\]: now ill show some basic josekis 
yithril [1d\]: that demonstrate the function of the opening moves
]
(;B[oc]C[yithril [1d\]: with two moves we can efficiently and securely take a corner
yithril [1d\]: the corners being an efficient area to make points
])
(;B[]C[yithril [1d\]: conversely
]
(;W[cc]C[yithril [1d\]: its weakness is here, the 3,3 point
yithril [1d\]: white could invade here
yithril [1d\]: and take the territory
yithril [1d\]: now the star point stone
yithril [1d\]: and its weakness
]
;B[dc]C[yithril [1d\]: take away a liberty
]
;W[cd]C[yithril [1d\]: come out
]
;B[ce]TR[dc][dd]SQ[cc][cd]C[yithril [1d\]: hane at the head of two stones
yithril [1d\]: its usually a good move when you have two black stones and two white stones standing side by side to hit your opponent on the head
yithril [1d\]: it removes liberties and makes life harder on them
]
;W[be]C[yithril [1d\]: come out
]
;B[cf]C[yithril [1d\]: walk ahead and threaten to seal
]
(;W[]
;B[bf])
(;W[bf]C[yithril [1d\]: come out
]
;B[cg]C[yithril [1d\]: walk ahead
]
;W[db]C[yithril [1d\]: try to enlarge amount of space
]
;B[eb]C[yithril [1d\]: block and create a weakness at c18
]
;W[cb]C[yithril [1d\]: protect
]
;B[fc]C[yithril [1d\]: protect
yithril [1d\]: here
yithril [1d\]: white took points
yithril [1d\]: black took influence
yithril [1d\]: he played a high stone to begin with
yithril [1d\]: so the thickness he gains is in line with his original move.
]))
(;W[od]C[yithril [1d\]: white approaches the black stone high
]
;B[oc]C[yithril [1d\]: black attaches to make territitory
]
;W[nc]LB[ob:2][pc:1]C[yithril [1d\]: block
yithril [1d\]: p17 has 2 liberties
yithril [1d\]: it is a weak stone
yithril [1d\]: we must help it
]
;B[pc]C[yithril [1d\]: now white has a cutting point
yithril [1d\]: he needs to fix it
]
;W[nd]C[yithril [1d\]: b needs to prevent white from attaching and making more thickness
]
(;B[]
;W[qe]C[yithril [1d\]: white could attach here
yithril [1d\]: and make even more influence
]
;B[re]
;W[qf]C[yithril [1d\]: pressing b low
])
(;B[qf]C[yithril [1d\]: so we come out
yithril [1d\]: now white needs to make a base
]
(;W[jc])
(;W[jd]C[yithril [1d\]: either depending.
yithril [1d\]: now lets look at the result
yithril [1d\]: white has stones the face outward while black took a large amount of territory
yithril [1d\]: the first move we played, the komoku, had that in mind
])))
(;W[pp]C[yithril [1d\]: heres anotehr one
yithril [1d\]: the 3,3 can be pressed down
]
(;B[qp]C[yithril [1d\]: come out
yithril [1d\]: otherwise
]
;W[po]C[yithril [1d\]: walk ahead
]
;B[or]C[yithril [1d\]: make some points and come out
]
;W[mp]C[yithril [1d\]: create more influence and stay ahead
]
;B[rn]
;W[pl]C[yithril [1d\]: b played low
yithril [1d\]: so his stones can be pressed low
yithril [1d\]: he gets the corner he set out to have
yithril [1d\]: but at the possible expense of letting white make influence on the outside
])
(;B[]
;W[qp]C[yithril [1d\]: white can try to close us in
yithril [1d\]: and it'll revert to the sequence we just saw in the upper left
]))
(;W[dq]C[yithril [1d\]: like the komoku stone
yithril [1d\]: the mokuhazushi can be made into a shimari
yithril [1d\]: plus
yithril [1d\]: c5 wasnt played with a huge emphasis on the corner
yithril [1d\]: if w plays here
]
;B[ep]C[yithril [1d\]: its logical b will press w down
yithril [1d\]: to build influence in the direction he originally intended
]
(;W[eq]C[yithril [1d\]: come out
]
;B[fp]C[yithril [1d\]: walk ahead
]
;W[gq]C[yithril [1d\]: we build an iron pillar
yithril [1d\]: so now we can afford to play a move that is not as slow
yithril [1d\]: but not too fast
yithril [1d\]: so we settle for one space
yithril [1d\]: white makes territory along the edge
yithril [1d\]: and b developed influence in the direction that the move originally called for
yithril [1d\]: i do not ask u memorize any of these
yithril [1d\]: itts more important to ask urself what principle guides each move
yithril [1d\]: and then to ask urself "does that apply in the game im playing now?"
yithril [1d\]: it will give you some more grounds to reason out your moves wihle you play
yithril [1d\]: thats all for today
JOmega [16k\]: thanks so much, Jon!
yithril [1d\]: hope everyone enjoyed the lecture
dogberto [?\]: query... what prevents black from cutting white at f3?
jtbunkers [20k\]: you said something earlier about working on reading, is there a way to get better at this other than playing a lot?
wappler [10k?\]: thx a lot
siso [?\]: Thank you :)
cwp7: thanks :)
Radley [8k\]: Thanks
kerbol [9k\]: thanks
yithril [1d\]: if you miss a lecture they're located at 
yithril [1d\]: http://www.umich.edu/~goclub/index.html under resources.
HonFu [3k\]: thanks
yithril [1d\]: jtbunkers
yithril [1d\]: tsumego
yithril [1d\]: meaning life and death
jtbunkers [20k\]: ahh
yithril [1d\]: for right now play al ot
yithril [1d\]: i went to 25 kyu to 11 kyu just by playing
yithril [1d\]: in like 3 months
jtbunkers [20k\]: oki thank you
yithril [1d\]: but do practice reading
jtbunkers [20k\]: of course
])
(;W[]
;B[eq]C[yithril [1d\]: otherwise b will seal you
])))))