(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
PW[White]PB[Black]DT[2007-09-30]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[fq]C[despise [6k\]: h3 
yithril [2d\]: and you think "i just can't let this shape form"
]
(;W[cn]
(;B[jp]TR[jp][fq][pq]C[Lecture 8 - Kobayashi Openingyithril [2d\]: this very famous opening
yithril [2d\]: called the kobayashi opening
AkiraToya [1k\]: wow yithril lectures got famouse
yithril [2d\]: for those not acquainted with it
Iink [-\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: heh, you guys see this a lot if you play me
yithril [2d\]: this shape at the bottom forms the kobayashi shape
masek [2k\]: Thril =) you can change game info in rules=)
masek [2k\]: this new feature=)
masek [2k\]: options rules=)
yithril [2d\]: so why do we play k4?
yithril [2d\]: yes this move is faster
yithril [2d\]: plus
yithril [2d\]: k4 is high
wildseven [-\]: hmm this is like chinese opening
yithril [2d\]: b is ready to attack any stone that comes too close to q 4
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: k4 helps black develop on a larger scale, it leaves the corner unresolved for later depending on board posistion and takes away Q5 and R5 as really good approach moves
yithril [2d\]: first thing
yithril [2d\]: if you hate playing against kobayashi
Shana [1k\]: aww how much did i miss
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: so as long as high pincer we are good?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I prefer high to low anyway
yithril [2d\]: yes
yithril [2d\]: high attacks
yithril [2d\]: although there are some fantastic games
Jamal [3k\]: the ideas apply for all games
despise [6k\]: but thx for showing it thus far
yithril [2d\]: Go is the same really
yithril [2d\]: thats it for today
yithril [2d\]: hope you all enjoyed the lecture

]
(;W[qn]LB[qk:D][ql:A][po:C][qp:B]C[yithril [2d\]: so now we come to this move
yithril [2d\]: much further away
yithril [2d\]: and a good move
yithril [2d\]: here
yithril [2d\]: what are some moves taht b could play?
yithril [2d\]: just call some out
despise [6k\]: r8 
Jamal [3k\]: r4
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: A5
tehdrinks [15k\]: bingo
hidan18 [1k\]: q5
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: R8 is mistake in direction
despise [6k\]: not really
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: w wrecks b's moyo
yithril [2d\]: any more?
Shana [1k\]: tenuki
despise [6k\]: umm
Shana [1k\]: xD
despise [6k\]: r9 
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: there are other pincers but pincer doesn't make sense in this fuseki
despise [6k\]: q6 
tehdrinks [15k\]: P6
yithril [2d\]: okay
yithril [2d\]: first
yithril [2d\]: lets do the simpel one
yithril [2d\]: are we ok so far?
despise [6k\]: sure
JinShi [12k\]: yep
yithril [2d\]: awesome
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: Get FREAKY *busts out the koda kumi song*
Shana [1k\]: 17k but close
yithril [2d\]: so i think we've covered the basics of this move
]
(;B[qp]C[yithril [2d\]: i like this move personally
yithril [2d\]: because its simple
yithril [2d\]: no muss no fuss
despise [6k\]: W gains though
yithril [2d\]: anyway
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: didn't I play this once while you were standing behind me and you told me to be meaner?  :S
despise [6k\]: r14 
yithril [2d\]: r 14 is insane
despise [6k\]: make a fight
]
(;W[qk]C[yithril [2d\]: r9 is correct
yithril [2d\]: now where should b play?
despise [6k\]: yeah but i would want a fight >>
Shana [1k\]: wut bout q10 for w? does it work
despise [6k\]: n4 
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I prefer F17 here
yithril [2d\]: q10 is possible
yithril [2d\]: but i found few games
yithril [2d\]: theres one move here
yithril [2d\]: one move that i found in every pro game with this shape
]
(;B[qi]C[yithril [2d\]: b must play here
yithril [2d\]: to weaken whites base
yithril [2d\]: now whites stones on the side are not as secure as they were before
yithril [2d\]: don't miss chances to take control
yithril [2d\]: if they're there take them
yithril [2d\]: alright
yithril [2d\]: now the orthodox approach
yithril [2d\]: if we dont add a move here
yithril [2d\]: if we think hey were ok
yithril [2d\]: clear so far?
Sora90 [10k\]: i guess >.>
wildseven [-\]: iama cloning ur demo and saving it :)
yithril [2d\]: ill have an sgf available for download after
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: there is a link to the lecture later
wildseven [-\]: awesome
yithril [2d\]: and previou sones
wildseven [-\]: ok no need then
yithril [2d\]: i do a lot in each lecture
yithril [2d\]: so that later
yithril [2d\]: you can go back and study
wildseven [-\]: iam a bit dizzy so nothing going in my head
yithril [2d\]: the main point
yithril [2d\]: is that this move squeezes white
yithril [2d\]: and makes it unclear if he is alive or not
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: *pours ben kettle one on the rocks*
]
(;W[on]C[yithril [2d\]: is for white to jump out since his stones are a bit uncomfortable
]
;B[pm]C[yithril [2d\]: b beeps to create aji
]
;W[pn]
;B[mp]C[yithril [2d\]: then we take profit on the bottom
despise [6k\]: top still weak though
]
;W[ok]C[yithril [2d\]: this defensive move is honte and leaves nothing
yithril [2d\]: for b to use
]
;B[fc]C[yithril [2d\]: top becomes biggest
]
;W[hc]
;B[pj]
;W[pk]C[yithril [2d\]: most pros used this force'
]
;B[cc]
;W[dc]
;B[cd]
;W[de]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[cf]
(;W[qf]C[yithril [2d\]: and then a fight would start
]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]
;B[qe]
;W[of]
;B[pe]
;W[kc]C[Lee Sedol vs Paek Hongsuk])
(;W[pf]
;B[qf]
;W[qg]
;B[rf]
;W[pe]
;B[qd]
;W[od]
;B[pg]
;W[og]
;B[ph]
;W[oc]
;B[jc]))
(;W[df]
;B[on]
;W[ok]
;B[oi]
;W[mk]
;B[nc])
(;W[ok]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: is it just me or is BoA unusually pretty? :S
yithril [2d\]: white could also jump here
Shana [1k\]: lol chem ur randm
yithril [2d\]: it affects a ladder and it also aims at counterattacking r 11
]
;B[qf]C[yithril [2d\]: in this game blackdefended
]
;W[hq]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I know I'm like the 30k putting in the light bulb but where is that ladder?
yithril [2d\]: here
yithril [2d\]: i gues syou didnt pay attention during my invasion lecture ;)
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ok can see it coming
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: i was moving during that lecture :)
]
;B[hp]
;W[ip]C[yithril [2d\]: this move
Shana [1k\]: u had an invasion lecture? O.o
yithril [2d\]: depends on various ladders
]
;B[iq]
;W[io]
(;B[jq]
;W[gp]C[yithril [2d\]: like this
yithril [2d\]: white can kill the black stone
yithril [2d\]: and press black down
yithril [2d\]: pitifully
])
(;B[hr]
;W[jq]
;B[gq]
;W[kp]C[yithril [2d\]: and here whtie can ladder black
yithril [2d\]: hence the placement of p9
]))
(;W[nc]C[yithril [2d\]: there was one game where white tenukied
yithril [2d\]: and i wanted to use it to display my point
]
;B[pc]C[yithril [2d\]: black took the corner here
]
;W[kc]
;B[fc]LB[ok:B][pl:C][on:A]C[yithril [2d\]: and then waited
yithril [2d\]: to attack the two side stones
yithril [2d\]: because he wasn't sure just how he wanted to attack them
yithril [2d\]: all places b could play
yithril [2d\]: feasibly
]
;W[eb]
;B[ic]C[despise [6k\]: p9 q8 let W run
]
;W[df]CR[ic][pc]TR[kc][nc]C[Shana [1k\]: wut does feasibly mean
yithril [2d\]: possibly
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: but they weaken white's shape
tehdrinks [15k\]: reasonably
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: possible and within reason
yithril [2d\]: yeah reasonably
Shana [1k\]: heh now i feel so dumb that u all know it
despise [6k\]: let it run cause its reasonable -_-
despise [6k\]: just close it and gain influence
yithril [2d\]: this shape appears again
yithril [2d\]: at the very top
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch to white
]
;B[je]C[yithril [2d\]: black attakcs up top
]
;W[ke]
;B[kf]
;W[le]
;B[jf]C[yithril [2d\]: so now b gets center ifnluence
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I prefer black this game
yithril [2d\]: all this time he is thinking about how to best attack the white stones
yithril [2d\]: plus now there is little left for white on the elft
]
;W[lf]
;B[pg]
;W[lh]
;B[on]
;W[rj]
;B[ri]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]LB[rm:A]C[yithril [2d\]: in the game white pushed out
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: beatufiul profit
yithril [2d\]: gave his opponent profit
yithril [2d\]: and there is still a weakness
yithril [2d\]: at A
yithril [2d\]: B went on to win this game
])
(;W[jc]
;B[on]LB[rl:B][rm:A]C[yithril [2d\]: b can attack here
yithril [2d\]: press white down
yithril [2d\]: and these points here becomes weaknesses
]
;W[ok]
;B[oi]C[yithril [2d\]: now the r 14 area is getting more under blacks control
]
(;W[mk]C[yithril [2d\]: we still need another move to come out for air
])
(;W[]C[yithril [2d\]: if we dont
]
;B[mk]
;W[nj]
;B[mh]C[yithril [2d\]: we lose control of our group quickly
yithril [2d\]: loss of control = points for your opponent
yithril [2d\]: and this is why r 11 is so big
])))
(;B[fc]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: this isn't too violent?
yithril [2d\]: its the only move
yithril [2d\]: if we go elsewhere
]
;W[cf]
;B[db]
;W[qh]C[yithril [2d\]: w will solidify his side group
yithril [2d\]: and b lost his chance
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ok understood
despise [6k\]: W has too much
]))
(;W[qf]
;B[pj]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch
yithril [2d\]: i split you apart
despise [6k\]: make it complex though
yithril [2d\]: doesnt amke sense
despise [6k\]: r10 
yithril [2d\]: how many stones does white have
yithril [2d\]: on the right side of the board
yithril [2d\]: 2
yithril [2d\]: how man ydoes black
yithril [2d\]: double
yithril [2d\]: w is outnumbered on this side so fights will favor b
]))
(;B[po]C[yithril [2d\]: this is one of my favorite moves
despise [6k\]: ....
yithril [2d\]: in all of go
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: me too :)
Shana [1k\]: ahh i love this too
despise [6k\]: i despise it
yithril [2d\]: we are emphasizing the side that k4 is on
Shana [1k\]: we despise u
despise [6k\]: i know
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: shana be nice in this room please
despise [6k\]: i despise all of you too
despise [6k\]: >>
Shana [1k\]: lol im just joking wif my good friend who i happen to despise
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: okies thanks for clearning it up
yithril [2d\]: now
]
(;W[rp]C[despise [6k\]: ...
yithril [2d\]: one white response
yithril [2d\]: is to simple slide under
yithril [2d\]: and take away the space in the corner
yithril [2d\]: after all blakc left this side open
yithril [2d\]: here we have several moves
]
(;B[pn]C[yithril [2d\]: or push
yithril [2d\]: there is also this push
]
;W[qm]C[yithril [2d\]: however
yithril [2d\]: b is pushing from behind
Shana [1k\]: so bad?
inochi33 [8k\]: i hate that ome
yithril [2d\]: and r7 helps white a bit
yithril [2d\]: so
inochi33 [8k\]: one*
yithril [2d\]: we jump ahead
]
;B[pk]C[yithril [2d\]: if you dont mind a fight this is a nice move
]
;W[qq]C[yithril [2d\]: w attaches to the corner
]
;B[pr]
;W[pm]C[Shana [1k\]: still bad for b i think 
yithril [2d\]: then creates some aji
]
;B[om]C[yithril [2d\]: but there are also ridiculous fighting sequences 
]
;W[rk]C[yithril [2d\]: the quiet white move is the keima here
]
;B[ol]
;W[jd]
;B[fo])
(;B[ql]C[Shana [1k\]: doesnt stop b from getting a moyo... push up at q6 looks funnest
yithril [2d\]: pincer here
yithril [2d\]: there are lots of variations
yithril [2d\]: im just going to show a few
]
;W[pn]C[yithril [2d\]: white comes out
yithril [2d\]: its natural otherwise b just encloses us
]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[qq]
;W[rm]
;B[on]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: prefer black as well
]
;W[pl]C[yithril [2d\]: w makes sure his shape stays stable
Shana [1k\]: well... wut now chem xD
yithril [2d\]: while black builds
]
;B[om]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I see this in lots of games on KGS
]
;W[pk]
;B[fo]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: actually
yithril [2d\]: personally id like black
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: looks very normal in high dan games
Shana [1k\]: i think b in better position but its still wiiiiiiiiiiiide open
yithril [2d\]: theres still some invasion potential but black develops in a nice fashion
]
;W[kc]
;B[cf]
;W[fc]
;B[cl]
;W[dr]
;B[el])
(;B[pl]C[yithril [2d\]: a bit higher
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: Q six would give white bad shape bc hane at head of two stones, shana
yithril [2d\]: this one is much more complicated
]
;W[pn]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I like this move
yithril [2d\]: again come out
]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]C[yithril [2d\]: when?
]
(;B[rm]C[yithril [2d\]: here is where it gets hard
Shana [1k\]: r3
Shana [1k\]: xD
Shana [1k\]: now
]
(;W[qq]C[yithril [2d\]: attack blacks shape
yithril [2d\]: is possible
Shana [1k\]: i actually know this one!!!
]
;B[rn]
(;W[pr]
;B[on]
;W[oo]
;B[pm]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: jon I thought  other varriation was more common
yithril [2d\]: i didnt take statistics...
])
(;W[oq]C[yithril [2d\]: this is also possible
]
;B[pp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: kz
]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[or]
;W[qs]
;B[nq]
;W[op]
;B[oo]
;W[np]
;B[no]
;W[mp]
;B[mo]
;W[mq]
;B[lp]
;W[qf]C[yithril [2d\]: but you really have to be the type that doesnt mind ur opponents thickness
yithril [2d\]: white does get quite a bit of solid points
Shana [1k\]: its hard not to mind
Shana [1k\]: xD
yithril [2d\]: but blacks outside wall is extremely powerful
]
;B[qh]
;W[ph]
;B[pi]
;W[pg]
;B[oi]
;W[qi]
;B[qj]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]
;W[me]
;B[oe]
;W[qc]C[Yuki Satoshi vs Ryu Shikun]))
(;W[rn]C[yithril [2d\]: this is heavty
]
;B[qq]
;W[nn]
;B[mp]C[yithril [2d\]: b fixes his shape and then takes a big point at the bottom
Shana [1k\]: can black play r3 first?
]
;W[ql]
;B[qk]
;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[ok]
;B[qm]
;W[pm]
;B[rl]
;W[ol]
;B[pi]
;W[qf]
;B[nd]
;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[rc]
;B[qe]
;W[rd]
;B[pe]
;W[re]
;B[qb]
;W[qh]
;B[pf]
;W[ph]
;B[ni]))
(;B[qq]C[yithril [2d\]: now?
Shana [1k\]: ya
]
;W[ql]C[yithril [2d\]: id prolly attach here to get stronger
Shana [1k\]: >.<
Shana [1k\]: nvm ^^
Jamal [3k\]: i'd p6
yithril [2d\]: this looks possible
])))
(;W[qk]C[yithril [2d\]: this is another move
yithril [2d\]: very light
Shana [1k\]: this looks bad tho
despise [6k\]: quick 20k question
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: looks like the contiuation is bad for white
despise [6k\]: p4 .
despise [6k\]: or something similar
despise [6k\]: on the same side
despise [6k\]: to destroy its base or something
Shana [1k\]: =/ i still dont like this for w
yithril [2d\]: this is simple and avoids a lot of complications
yithril [2d\]: and is a lightway of playing
]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]
;W[qh]C[yithril [2d\]: if w connects at s 6
]
;B[]
;W[rn]LB[rq:A]C[yithril [2d\]: there is aji here
]))
(;B[ql]C[yithril [2d\]: the pincer here
yithril [2d\]: not often played
yithril [2d\]: i only found a few games
]
;W[qq]C[despise [6k\]: cause its so great
yithril [2d\]: when white attaches here where should b play?
despise [6k\]: eitehr r4 r2 
yithril [2d\]: anyone else?
despise [6k\]: s3 ?
yithril [2d\]: none of them are right
]
(;B[qp]C[yithril [2d\]: if we hane
]
;W[pp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: this joseki is bad for black
yithril [2d\]: naturally crosscut
]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]
;B[po]
;W[op]
;B[qo]
;W[rr]
;B[no]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: direction mistake
]
;W[oo]
;B[on]
;W[oq]C[Shana [1k\]: but this happens more often i think
]
;B[pn]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: still awful
yithril [2d\]: this is bad direction
Shana [1k\]: b can aim for center
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B's bottom is wrecked
Shana [1k\]: possibly
yithril [2d\]: i found no games like this
yithril [2d\]: on gobase
Shana [1k\]: try checking 20k games
yithril [2d\]: and i agree since k4/f3 combination is not in an efficient spot
Shana [1k\]: xD
yithril [2d\]: iid be surprised if 20kyus played this
yithril [2d\]: that would be freaky ;)
Shana [1k\]: i saw one play similar
])
(;B[pp]C[Jamal [3k\]: r4
yithril [2d\]: q4
despise [6k\]: -_-
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: Q4 looks best here
despise [6k\]: well thats too simple
]
;W[qp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: but it's nto joseki response?
]
;B[po]
;W[rn]
;B[om]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: oh tihs one
yithril [2d\]: it reverts to a different joseki
Shana [1k\]: hey this looks familiar xD
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: in different order
yithril [2d\]: the one where black k4 is in the right spot
])))
(;W[qj]
;B[ql]
;W[qf]
;B[nc]
;W[rd]
;B[qh]
;W[of]
;B[pi]
;W[qc]
;B[kc]
;W[pp]
;B[qp]
;W[oq]
;B[po]
;W[op]
;B[qr]
;W[pr]
;B[qq]
;W[oo]
;B[pn]
;W[lq]
;B[kr]
;W[lr]
;B[kq]
;W[lo]
;B[kn]
;W[nm]
;B[pj]
;W[fc])
(;W[po]C[yithril [2d\]: first off
yithril [2d\]: some basic mistakes
yithril [2d\]: white would like to keep black from enclosing the corner here
yithril [2d\]: so logically we would like to keep our opponent from having suhc a nice setup
yithril [2d\]: however
yithril [2d\]: k4 is high
yithril [2d\]: changes the situation
yithril [2d\]: shoot
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: why not one space high pincer?
yithril [2d\]: where white does try this
yithril [2d\]: we'll see later on in the elcture
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: awesome
]
(;B[pl]C[yithril [2d\]: b pincer is natural
yithril [2d\]: we have q16 background stone and now we force white out into the center
yithril [2d\]: the center which we have more influence
yithril [2d\]: plus
yithril [2d\]: white is outnumbered on the bottom and side
Sora90 [10k\]: :D do tell
yithril [2d\]: guo juan taught me this one
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeah I naturally like two space better
yithril [2d\]: but i remember her saying that iether is fine
yithril [2d\]: as long as you're pincering
]
;W[no]
;B[nq]
;W[lo]
;B[mp]
;W[mo]
;B[pi]C[yithril [2d\]: this is very good for black
yithril [2d\]: the reason being is that black got to develop on both sides
yithril [2d\]: and the stones white has played don't necesarily do much
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: looks like white got a big old stick out of it
yithril [2d\]: so this is not acceptable
])
(;B[pm]C[yithril [2d\]: also possible
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I was informed proper way to punish here
]
;W[no]
;B[nq]
;W[lo]
;B[mp]
;W[mo]
;B[pj])
(;B[np]C[firstaid [1k\]: one space looks more severe
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: as long as we pincer high
yithril [2d\]: this is slakc
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeah absolutely
]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[rr]
;W[qk]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: what are you going to do with your sente that is so importnat?
yithril [2d\]: this is not acceptable
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B looks low here
yithril [2d\]: i wouldnt say that
yithril [2d\]: what i would say
despise [6k\]: still keep sente
yithril [2d\]: is that b missed his opporunity
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: okies
Jamal [3k\]: w got a good base
despise [6k\]: true
]))
(;W[qo]C[yithril [2d\]: likewise low is also too close
yithril [2d\]: not much shana
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: not much shana I can fill you in later if you need it
yithril [2d\]: just going over basics
]
;B[qm]C[yithril [2d\]: again pincer
yithril [2d\]: we can be severe
yithril [2d\]: we have k4
yithril [2d\]: i did find 1 pro game like this
]
;W[oo]
;B[np]
;W[pl]
;B[qp]
;W[ql]
;B[ro]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[rm]
;B[qf]C[Yu Ping vs Nie WeipingChemBoy613 [7k\]: I sill prefer black
yithril [2d\]: i included the names of the pros in case you would like to use a go searching program to look up the game
despise [6k\]: memorize all this
yithril [2d\]: yes i agree chem
yithril [2d\]: b is preferable
yithril [2d\]: the reason being is that the bottom is quite nice
yithril [2d\]: and after the bottom sequence
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: sente, big corner, nice bottom moyo
yithril [2d\]: we got sente to lower w's influence
yithril [2d\]: b went on to win this game
yithril [2d\]: and i could not find any others on gobase
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: jon question concerning one space high approach when you have a moment
])
(;W[pn]C[Shana [1k\]: what is the fighting sequences? xD i wanna fight
yithril [2d\]: im gonna do a second lecture on kobayashi
Shana [1k\]: aww ok...
yithril [2d\]: so i can go into more detail
yithril [2d\]: im just trying to get basics out now 
yithril [2d\]: the high two space approach
yithril [2d\]: i dont liek this move personaly
]
;B[qo]C[Shana [1k\]: i like using it as a probe tho
yithril [2d\]: because b plays here and takes lots of points
yithril [2d\]: however
yithril [2d\]: if we treat q6 as a lgiht stone
yithril [2d\]: then the situation changes
]
(;W[qn]C[yithril [2d\]: or answer directly
yithril [2d\]: if directly
]
;B[po]
;W[on]
(;B[qj]
;W[oo]
;B[nq]
;W[lo]
;B[mo]
;W[mn]
;B[mp]
;W[lm]
;B[oj]
;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[kd]
;B[kn]
;W[km]
;B[jn]
;W[fc])
(;B[pj]C[yithril [2d\]: b should take the side point
yithril [2d\]: it'd be too easy on white to let him have it without a fight
Shana [1k\]: i think i saw this before
]
;W[oo]C[yithril [2d\]: r3 is still a weak pot
yithril [2d\]: *spot
yithril [2d\]: so we take away some libs
]
;B[nq]
(;W[ro]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I prefer other direction for black :S
]
;B[qq]C[yithril [2d\]: i didnt like s 5 but i saw it in a game
yithril [2d\]: reason being its aji keshi
])
(;W[lo]
;B[mo]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]C[yithril [2d\]: so now for the fight
]
;W[rq]
;B[rn]
;W[qp]
;B[so]
;W[pp]C[Shana [1k\]: yay fight
]
;B[qq]
;W[ro]
;B[qo]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[op]
;B[mp]
;W[rr]
;B[qr]
;W[rs]
;B[mr]
;W[rm]
;B[rl]
;W[sm]
;B[pl]
;W[qm]
;B[sq]
;W[qs]
;B[pr]
;W[sn]CR[pj][pl][rl][mo]C[Rui Nai Wei as B

Crazy stuffyithril [2d\]: B is rui naiwei
yithril [2d\]: in this game
yithril [2d\]: she sacrificed these stones
yithril [2d\]: there is a little ko aji but not big cuz its two steps
yithril [2d\]: but important
yithril [2d\]: b got these outside stones
yithril [2d\]: as well asgot out
yithril [2d\]: b won this game
])))
(;W[qj]C[yithril [2d\]: extend along the side
]
(;B[po]
;W[qg]
;B[nc]
;W[hq]
;B[hp]
;W[ip]
;B[io]
;W[iq]
;B[jq]
;W[gp]
;B[ho]
;W[gq]
;B[jo]
;W[fp]
;B[ql]
;W[qq]
;B[pr]
;W[qn]
;B[rm]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]
;W[pl]
;B[on]
;W[pk]
;B[sn]
;W[rd]C[Lee Changho vs Cho Hunhyun 
W+R])
(;B[ql]
;W[qg]
;B[ol]
;W[rd]
;B[km]
;W[md]
;B[pi]
;W[pj]
;B[oi]
;W[oj]
;B[qi]
;W[nj]
;B[ri]
;W[rj]
;B[pg]
;W[pf]
;B[of]
;W[og]
;B[ng]
;W[ph]
;B[oh]
;W[qn]C[W+R

Liu Xi vs Yue Liang]))
(;W[qf]C[yithril [2d\]: white can tenuki
]
;B[pi]C[yithril [2d\]: here b pincers
yithril [2d\]: naturally enough
yithril [2d\]: we outnumber white so we need to keep the pressure up
]
;W[of]
;B[nc]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: move makes perfect sense I think
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: O16 normal I think
yithril [2d\]: this is to settle quicker
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: k
]
;W[rd]
;B[po]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: so b is more free to attack Q16
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ya?
yithril [2d\]: because b wanted to get this move
yithril [2d\]: b wants to make sure
yithril [2d\]: white cannot use thi sstone
yithril [2d\]: to counterattack q 11
]
;W[qc]
;B[kc]C[yithril [2d\]: so he traded white neatly settling in the corner
yithril [2d\]: for solidty on the bottom
]
;W[nn]C[yithril [2d\]: this situation
yithril [2d\]: is quite interesting
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: O17 so that S16 not sente?
yithril [2d\]: white jumped here and then a fight insued.
yithril [2d\]: *ensued
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: now we attack white's running stones?
yithril [2d\]: yes
yithril [2d\]: its light though
yithril [2d\]: so its difficult to do that
]))
(;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[qn]
(;B[pl]
;W[qq]
;B[pp]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[qr]
;B[pn]
;W[qm]
;B[pm]
;W[jd]
;B[cf])
(;B[ql]
;W[qq]
;B[pp]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[rn]
;B[om]))
(;W[jd]
;B[po]C[yithril [2d\]: like this blacks influene at the bottom is quite nice
yithril [2d\]: the shape is very efficient
]))
(;B[dr]C[masek [2k\]: h3 ?
yithril [2d\]: it is possible for b just to take territory
despise [6k\]: idk your the dan
Jamal [3k\]: fast
]))
(;W[hq]C[yithril [2d\]: pincer or
])
(;W[po]C[yithril [2d\]: kakari here are both options
]))