(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00] PW[Lecture]PB[8]DT[2007-10-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Lecture 9 Attack and Defense (1) Basics of Attack and Defense Topics : Capping Moves Keima Leaning Attacks Splitting Attacks Attacking for Profit Important Concepts: "Build strength before attacking" "Attack from afar" "Always be careful with your reading" "Defend by attacking"Shana [1k\]: again? O.o Iink [-\]: hi yithril yithril [2d\]: my friend is an idiot Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol Iink [-\]: ? yithril [2d\]: thats my excuse Shana [1k\]: yes we know ^^ Iink [-\]: wht??? Rukawa [7k?\]: lecture? yithril [2d\]: yeah in 2 minutes saru411 [9k\]: where is the lecture? Iink [-\]: lol Rukawa [7k?\]: cool yithril [2d\]: umm here saru411 [9k\]: ok Shana [1k\]: fine mr punctual Seakneeboy [8k\]: audio Seakneeboy [8k\]: ? yithril [2d\]: yes wildseven [-\]: no audio Iink [-\]: :D wildseven [-\]: ?? Shana [1k\]: aww now i cant listen to music yithril [2d\]: not yet HonFu [3k\]: hmm ... audio? HonFu [3k\]: a scribe? yithril [2d\]: i will thype yithril [2d\]: macht dir keine sorgen HonFu [3k\]: ah, great ^_^ Iink [-\]: I put the misuc in low volume :D HonFu [3k\]: danke schoen wildseven [-\]: is your mic broke ? Shana [1k\]: still the voices mix up and sound horrible Seakneeboy [8k\]: just yithril's voice Iink [-\]: don´t have a outside soun system? Seakneeboy [8k\]: oh ok Iink [-\]: let´s rock :D Shana [1k\]: i drank like 2 gallons of water today ^ _ ^ Rukawa [7k?\]: lol Shana [1k\]: not all at once Iink [-\]: lol wildseven [-\]: iam allmost done with my 1 gallon of apple juice Shana [1k\]: ooh i just noticed the players name place says lecture 8 Rukawa [7k?\]: 2 liter a day is just fine tenseiga [-\]: hi yithril [2d\]: actually its a typo yithril [2d\]: we're on 9 Rukawa [7k?\]: yes Seakneeboy [8k\]: yes Iink [-\]: yes tenseiga [-\]: yeah inochi33 [8k\]: yes Shana [1k\]: yes Shana [1k\]: xD wildseven [-\]: again ? Seakneeboy [8k\]: yeah wildseven [-\]: not yet volatile [10k\]: one :D Shana [1k\]: i can hear really loud but cant her clearly =/ Iink [-\]: speack slower xD Seakneeboy [8k\]: get closer to the mic wildseven [-\]: lol Iink [-\]: thx Seakneeboy [8k\]: yeah Shana [1k\]: yup wildseven [-\]: yeah\\ Seakneeboy [8k\]: :-) HonFu [3k\]: link - are you the scribe? Iink [-\]: me xD volatile [10k\]: it's helpful :D Seakneeboy [8k\]: nice to have Rukawa [7k?\]: sfg? Seakneeboy [8k\]: almost too much HonFu [3k\]: really. dont have a sound card volatile [10k\]: it was a lot to go through Shana [1k\]: sgf Rukawa [7k?\]: cool wildseven [-\]: i will dl it later wildseven [-\]: it will be very helpfull yithril [2d\]: http://www.umich.edu/~goclub/index.html yithril [2d\]: under resources wildseven [-\]: thnx Seakneeboy [8k\]: nit it Seakneeboy [8k\]: notit Seakneeboy [8k\]: !! inochi33 [8k\]: me saru411 [9k\]: try what? wildseven [-\]: iam def inochi33 [8k\]: sure wildseven [-\]: inochi will ? Seakneeboy [8k\]: way to take one for the team inochi33 [8k\]: what does it mean wildseven [-\]: type what he says wildseven [-\]: XD Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol!!! inochi33 [8k\]: lol wildseven [-\]: omg wildseven [-\]: lol wildseven [-\]: my god Rukawa [7k?\]: lol Shana [1k\]: heh wildseven [-\]: sory yithril Shana [1k\]: WOOHOO! wildseven [-\]: blair you scrib wildseven [-\]: e* blairz74 [3k\]: huh? blairz74 [3k\]: oh sound is off saru411 [9k\]: topic = attack and defence yithril [2d\]: So todays lecture is on basics of attack and defense Iink [-\]: *scriber* *scriber* Iink [-\]: xD ] (;B[pd] ;W[dp] (;B[pq] ;W[dd] ;B[fq] ;W[cn] ;B[jp] ;W[qn] ;B[qp] ;W[qk] ;B[qi] (;W[on] ;B[pm] ;W[pn] ;B[mp] ;W[ok]) (;W[jc] ;B[on] ;W[cf] ;B[ok])) (;B[qp] ;W[dd] ;B[fq] ;W[cn] ;B[kq] ;W[op] ;B[pn] ;W[qq] ;B[rq] ;W[pq] ;B[rr] ;W[mq] ;B[nn] ;W[mo] ;B[no] ;W[np] ;B[lp] ;W[kr] ;B[jr] ;W[lr] ;B[jq] ;W[mp] ;B[qg])) (;B[qd]C[inochi33 [8k\]: i've studied a little on attack and tesuji, hehe nothing else though BenBinder [16k\]: how can I get audio? Shana [1k\]: dot dot dot Rukawa [7k?\]: does it means something about a slow and fast moves? yithril [2d\]: one of the important concepts of attack and defense yithril [2d\]: is staying ahead of your opponent Shana [1k\]: r u playing drums? Seakneeboy [8k\]: are you wrestling with the mic wildseven [-\]: ill scribe for you Shana [1k\]: oh sorry tenseiga [-\]: haha xD Iink [-\]: *scriber* funny noise wildseven [-\]: -_- wildseven [-\]: ok HonFu [3k\]: whsts happening? inochi33 [8k\]: oh that what it means saru411 [9k\]: i think the mic won BenBinder [16k\]: HOW TO GET AUDIO??? ChemBoy613 [7k\]: pro game ino ] (;W[od]C[Shana [1k\]: turn on ur speakers PRIMOXVR [3k\]: yithril PRIMOXVR [3k\]: i must know blairz74 [3k\]: calm down please.... wildseven [-\]: *ill show you basic joseki to be ahead* Iink [-\]: 2 scribers is better, cuz what one don´t get, the other will say BenBinder [16k\]: they are on PRIMOXVR [3k\]: who is that attractive lady in the picture Shana [1k\]: turn on ur volume tenseiga [-\]: lol inochi33 [8k\]: lol mello duh wildseven [-\]: *that is a guy first off* Seakneeboy [8k\]: this is insane wildseven [-\]: *laugh* Shana [1k\]: have u ever watched death note?... saru411 [9k\]: LOL ] ;B[ld] ;W[of] ;B[qf]C[PRIMOXVR [3k\]: omg thats a guy wildseven [-\]: *b play pincer* ] ;W[oh] ;B[qh]LB[od:A][qd:D][of:B][qf:E][oh:C][qh:F]SQ[rd][re][rf][rg][rh]C[wildseven [-\]: w jumps* wildseven [-\]: w jumps again* Seakneeboy [8k\]: black and white are keeping pace HonFu [3k\]: always this oftten? wildseven [-\]: *d,e,f are for territory inochi33 [8k\]: case a shadow ] ;W[id]TR[id][ld][od][qd][of][qf][oh][qh]C[inochi33 [8k\]: over that one stone wildseven [-\]: w moves how ever do not necesarriry make territory wildseven [-\]: talk slowly wildseven [-\]: -_- Seakneeboy [8k\]: whites aim is to attack m16 Iink [-\]: and clearly saru411 [9k\]: just scribe the ideas he is saying, dont worry about every word wildseven [-\]: ok ] (;B[lg]C[wildseven [-\]: **b plays 2 space to run to the center* ]) (;B[dp] ;W[ke]C[wildseven [-\]: *now black has to deal with m16 stone* ]) (;B[lf]C[wildseven [-\]: *w is all ready ahead* ] ;W[lh]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: white is ahead so we have to play faster ])) (;W[dc]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: in middle game fighting the center determines who has control of the fight inochi33 [8k\]: two 9ks? ] ;B[dq]C[Rukawa [7k?\]: *control center, control fight, in middle game ] ;W[pq]C[wildseven [-\]: *who ever controls center ,controls the fight* inochi33 [8k\]: what level game was this ] ;B[ce] ;W[ci] ;B[fe] ;W[gc] ;B[hd]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: b h16 is to press white ] (;W[hc]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* going for the middle game ] ;B[id]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: white submissive and gets sealed ] ;W[ic] ;B[jd]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: this is from a pro game ] ;W[kc]TR[gc][hc][ic][kc][hd][id][jd]C[wildseven [-\]: -_- k iam not gonna scribe no more Seakneeboy [8k\]: same idea of getting ahead Iink [-\]: =\] Iink [-\]: *scriber* if tenuki, b h17 Seakneeboy [8k\]: these moves are a struggle to get ahead Seakneeboy [8k\]: white = territory black = thickness ] ;B[ck]TR[hd][id][jd]C[skamus [-\]: is that joseki??? looks too ugly for w. Seakneeboy [8k\]: this is effective use of black thiness Iink [-\]: *scriber* black attack c11 Seakneeboy [8k\]: thickness Rukawa [7k?\]: *attack to make territory from the thickness skamus [-\]: thank you ] ;W[ei] ;B[ek]TR[cl][cm][dn][do][dp]SQ[hd][id][jd][fe]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: lots of pincer joseki look like this, if you know the basic idea you will more or less know about 10-20 joseki Seakneeboy [8k\]: guage points on both sides and look for joseki inochi33 [8k\]: it seems to easy for white to escape at c11 Rukawa [7k?\]: *keep close saru411 [9k\]: profit normally comes somewhere else than your thickness ] ;W[gi] ;B[dh] ;W[di] ;B[ii]SQ[hd][id][jd][fe]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: referance - lessons in the fundamentals of go chapter four for "the struggle to get ahead" by Kageyama Seakneeboy [8k\]: capping is useful for keeping control of center (very important ] ;W[hj] ;B[jk]SQ[ii][pi][pj][jk][pk][pl] ;W[hl] ;B[do] ;W[qo]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: black gets profit from his attack ] ;B[hn] ;W[fl]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: also attack and defense is great as well, good read ] ;B[dm]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* k9 moves looks to r10 area ]) (;W[cl] ;B[hc]))) (;B[]C[wildseven [-\]: control is points Shana [1k\]: points is win wildseven [-\]: yup Iink [-\]: *scribe* win is the way ro pro Seakneeboy [8k\]: what about defense against the dark arts? Iink [-\]: ups Iink [-\]: sry, without *scribe* ChemBoy613 [7k\]: expellliamus! volatile [10k\]: thank you yithril sensei418 [12k\]: thanks Shana [1k\]: it was so helpful xD thx ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeahs jon, informative Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol skamus [-\]: bye bye good lecture firstaid [1k\]: it was great! thanks a lot joekun [10k\]: yup thanks ^^ wildseven [-\]: this lecture is been sponsored by "a death gods tale" under social Iink [-\]: thx wildseven [-\]: xD thnx jon yithril [2d\]: http://www.umich.edu/~goclub/index.html HonFu [3k\]: thx ! ChemBoy613 [7k\]: attack and defense is really really excellent book too Seakneeboy [8k\]: beer at my place and a scary movie if you want in yith yithril [2d\]: under resources Seakneeboy [8k\]: later all ChemBoy613 [7k\]: later guys ChemBoy613 [7k\]: have fun yithril [2d\]: fun lecture Seakneeboy [8k\]: yep volatile [10k\]: hm,i like the examples. can we have more examples in the future? :D wildseven [-\]: hmm Seakneeboy [8k\]: ciao ] (;AW[kc][rc][qd][qe][qh]AB[qb][dc][ic][oc][qc][pd][ce][of]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: 9p firstaid [1k\]: 9p inochi33 [8k\]: oh inochi33 [8k\]: sorry katonjutsu [1d\]: XD Iink [-\]: xD skamus [-\]: lol ChemBoy613 [7k\]: i hear you fine jon btw wildseven [-\]: 9p vs 9p inochi33 [8k\]: looks to one sided Seakneeboy [8k\]: calm dow yith :-) Iink [-\]: *scriber* 2 9 pros Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol ] (;W[pp] ;B[je]) (;W[]LB[jd:D][ie:C][je:B][ke:A]SQ[qb][oc][qc][pd][of]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* two damn pros xD ChemBoy613 [7k\]: kemia looks appropriate here ChemBoy613 [7k\]: mobility Seakneeboy [8k\]: keima inochi33 [8k\]: cap Iink [-\]: *scriber* lots of ways firstaid [1k\]: jump firstaid [1k\]: C Shana [1k\]: b volatile [10k\]: jump volatile [10k\]: c Iink [-\]: *scriber* attack, run, ... ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B looks best in my opinion tenseiga [-\]: b skamus [-\]: A Seakneeboy [8k\]: no C freeugh: a ! : D wildseven [-\]: b BenBinder [16k\]: B Rukawa [7k?\]: A wildseven [-\]: peep ] (;B[ke]CR[ic][jd][ke]) (;B[je]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: like a self-peep ben wildseven [-\]: exactly wildseven [-\]: xD Seakneeboy [8k\]: love the theatrics ] ;W[ke]C[wildseven [-\]: whats funny jon ? ;) ] ;B[kf] ;W[le] ;B[jf]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* makes it suffers *.* ]) (;B[jd] ;W[le]) (;B[ie]C[BenBinder [16k\]: B for BenBinder Iink [-\]: *scriber* A,B,C or D wildseven [-\]: running the stones Iink [-\]: *scriber* D is more correct wildseven [-\]: xD ] ;W[ke]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: lol you at ER still? ]))) (;AW[fc][kc][ed][gd][ke][nl][pl][cm][mm][pm][nn][pn][dp][fp][lp][pp][qp][mq][rq]AB[dc][ec][mc][oc][cd][qd][cf][qj][dk][ok][pk][ql][oo][op][iq][oq][qq][nr][qr][rr]LB[oe:B][qe:D][dh:E][ej:A][jj:C]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* next exemple wildseven [-\]: leading and attack wildseven [-\]: an* firstaid [1k\]: leaning attack wildseven [-\]: lol iam def Princy [1d\]: i tinhk its leaning attack)* ChemBoy613 [7k\]: make thickness by a shoulder hit on D9 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ? wildseven [-\]: kk Princy [1d\]: p15? wildseven [-\]: it will ChemBoy613 [7k\]: E10 Princy [1d\]: p15 Seakneeboy [8k\]: tengen ChemBoy613 [7k\]: LOL sean firstaid [1k\]: r15 wildseven [-\]: d12 Seakneeboy [8k\]: ahh go back wildseven [-\]: yes ] (;W[qg] ;B[og]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ju8st cap and it will probably die ]) (;W[qe]C[Princy [1d\]: hmm Iink [-\]: *scriber* r15 is correct Seakneeboy [8k\]: black r 14 Iink [-\]: he destroy Seakneeboy [8k\]: o 14 Seakneeboy [8k\]: sry Seakneeboy [8k\]: o14 volatile [10k\]: nice Seakneeboy [8k\]: k Seakneeboy [8k\]: thx wildseven [-\]: r15 is perfect for this situation ] (;B[pe]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* w runs out Seakneeboy [8k\]: reduction move HonFu [3k\]: but white hasnt made too many points, had he? ] ;W[qf]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* attack r16 ] ;B[rd]C[Princy [1d\]: yup Seakneeboy [8k\]: after the attach ] ;W[og]C[wildseven [-\]: r15 is preety complex Seakneeboy [8k\]: throw away two stones right? ] (;B[]C[Princy [1d\]: nice ] ;W[ni]) (;B[mj]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* hane makes weak Seakneeboy [8k\]: sac two stones wildseven [-\]: kill wildseven [-\]: useless ] ;W[mh] ;B[kj]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* o10 no points ] (;W[kh]) (;W[nk] ;B[nj] ;W[oi] ;B[oj] ;W[lk] ;B[lj] ;W[kh]CR[kj][lj][mj][nj][oj]C[Princy [1d\]: ya ChemBoy613 [7k\]: no points ]))) (;B[nf]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: yeah ] ;W[rd]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: pull back ] ;B[qc]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: really? Seakneeboy [8k\]: guess I dont see it wildseven [-\]: yeah ] ;W[qh] ;B[nh] ;W[rc])) (;W[oe] ;B[pf]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: this is a great probe ])) (;AW[db][eb][cc][dc][fc][gc][oc][id][ie][bf][if][cg][di][fi][dj][bk][ck][kl][qm][kn][kp][qp][bq][dq][br][cr][dr][er][fr]AB[fb][ec][dd][ed][qd][be][ce][fe][he][pe][hf][hg][hi][dk][fk][bl][cl][dl][on][bp][cp][dp][ip][cq][eq][fq][hq][mq][oq]LB[kq:1][qr:2]TR[hg][hi][dk][fk][dl][kl][kn][on][ip][kp][eq][fq][hq][mq][oq]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* another pro game ChemBoy613 [7k\]: P17 looks weak Iink [-\]: too fast @.@ ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ssshhh just listen link Iink [-\]: k HonFu [3k\]: L4 line weak? Iink [-\]: sry Iink [-\]: TT.TT wildseven [-\]: yithril your breaking Seakneeboy [8k\]: attacking weak groups ios about timing ChemBoy613 [7k\]: might be your shotty connection ben ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he soudns fine here wildseven [-\]: internet much be going down wildseven [-\]: yes ChemBoy613 [7k\]: however, since N3 isn't really settled, we attack from direction? wildseven [-\]: weak group are liabilities Iink [-\]: *scriber* l4 no base wildseven [-\]: L line is a liability ] ;W[]C[Cho Chikun vs Otake Hideowildseven [-\]: 2 skamus [-\]: q8 Rukawa [7k?\]: p8? wildseven [-\]: p9 Rukawa [7k?\]: i mean q8 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: L11 or M5 firstaid [1k\]: l10 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ? XD BenBinder [16k\]: what was the question? Seakneeboy [8k\]: r10 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: black to play wildseven [-\]: c Rukawa [7k?\]: r3 HonFu [3k\]: hasnt black not L2 and R2? skamus [-\]: o16 HonFu [3k\]: why not attack immediately K10? Rukawa [7k?\]: settle down first and attack later? ChemBoy613 [7k\]: L10 maybe? ] (;B[kj]TR[id][ie][if]SQ[jc][kc][lc][mc][md][je][ke][le][me]C[Shana [1k\]: he said its already settled ChemBoy613 [7k\]: XD barely got it in Seakneeboy [8k\]: attack top Iink [-\]: not let it run? skamus [-\]: because youre a pro? Iink [-\]: lol ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he is going to build thickniess while chasting this group to make a sever attack on O17 Rukawa [7k?\]: p6 to attack both group? Iink [-\]: *scriber* open space at the top wildseven [-\]: that move is hardcore its insane !! Iink [-\]: *scriber* keep white weak ]) (;B[mc] ;W[oe] ;B[of] ;W[ne]) (;B[im]) (;B[pl]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: looks like 20-30 points at most Shana [1k\]: well... this lecture is on attacking xD ] ;W[ql] ;B[pk] ;W[kj]C[wildseven [-\]: attack and defence Seakneeboy [8k\]: seems like a good idea also Seakneeboy [8k\]: l12 Seakneeboy [8k\]: L12 skamus [-\]: yeah... maybe kindda lacks direction HonFu [3k\]: yes, now certainly y.< Princy [1d\]: d7 wildseven [-\]: n has this moyo wildseven [-\]: b ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeah that is a lot of power Princy [1d\]: f10? ChemBoy613 [7k\]: cap? Seakneeboy [8k\]: say that one more time ChemBoy613 [7k\]: or kemia wildseven [-\]: have your opponent walk to thier moyo Princy [1d\]: but looks a lil thin Seakneeboy [8k\]: ok thanks ] ;W[em] ;B[en] ;W[dm] ;B[dn]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: beautiful idea ] ;W[gl] ;B[hn] ;W[hp]LB[hn:A][hp:B]C[wildseven [-\]: if your opponent has huge moyo let them walk you in thier moyo ChemBoy613 [7k\]: such a great attack here ChemBoy613 [7k\]: strong white Seakneeboy [8k\]: indeed wildseven [-\]: PAY ATTENTION Princy [1d\]: ... skamus [-\]: nice Seakneeboy [8k\]: attacking gets you profit ] ;B[im] ;W[ik]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: defending doesn't Princy [1d\]: f13 is huge now Princy [1d\]: huuuge ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes princy Seakneeboy [8k\]: yes! volatile [10k\]: yes ]) (;AW[ka][oa][pa][kb][mb][ob][dc][jc][kc][lc][nc][oc][nd][de][ie][oe][qe][cf][mf][nf][of][qf][lg][mg][og][lh][nh][li][ck][lk][np][pp][gq][jq][qq]AB[qa][jb][pb][rb][fc][hc][ic][mc][pc][id][jd][kd][ld][md][od][pd][qd][me][ne][kg][qg][jh][mh][oh][ph][mi][ni][jj][pl][cm][qn][cp][rp][eq]LB[mg:A][kp:D][lp:C][mp:B]C[wildseven [-\]: we wanna make that we dont have weak groups ChemBoy613 [7k\]: absolutely jon Iink [-\]: *scribe* one more exemple firstaid [1k\]: b to move? ChemBoy613 [7k\]: whit's group in the middle ChemBoy613 [7k\]: white's ChemBoy613 [7k\]: no eyes Iink [-\]: *scribe* where is the weak group skamus [-\]: m9 really weak.. Iink [-\]: *scribe* 1st question to urs selfs firstaid [1k\]: n4 Iink [-\]: *scribe* 2nd how to attack ChemBoy613 [7k\]: play something around M4... force white to defend, get some thickness then come back to attack Shana [1k\]: l4 skamus [-\]: m7 Seakneeboy [8k\]: lean on it to attack lower side HonFu [3k\]: n4 Seakneeboy [8k\]: l3 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: hehe <3 link Iink [-\]: =\] volatile [10k\]: yah wildseven [-\]: yes ] ;W[] ;B[kp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: M7 is direct attack not leaning attack ] (;W[kq] ;B[lp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: white is split and weak like that ] ;W[lq] ;B[mp] ;W[mq] ;B[lm]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch ]) (;W[oj]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* if w tenuki b cut white Iink [-\]: *scribe* with this create more pressure skamus [-\]: lol ] ;B[oi] ;W[jp]C[wildseven [-\]: offence is defence in this game ] ;B[nk] ;W[kl] ;B[kn] ;W[jo]LB[jn:B][ko:A]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B Seakneeboy [8k\]: B skamus [-\]: k6 ' ] ;B[jn]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* A or B? skamus [-\]: a is heavy.. HonFu [3k\]: b ] ;W[il] ;B[in] ;W[nl] ;B[ol] ;W[nm] ;B[mp]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* keep w separete ] ;W[no] ;B[mk] ;W[ml] ;B[lm] ;W[ll] ;B[kq]CR[jo][jp][gq][jq][kq]TR[lg][mg][lh][lk][ll][ml][nl][nm][no][np][pp]SQ[gm][hm][fn][gn][hn][in][jn][kn][fo]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: yikes ChemBoy613 [7k\]: really a beautiful line of play Iink [-\]: *scribe* connect, but with no points firstaid [1k\]: b got lotsa points and destroyed lotsa points ChemBoy613 [7k\]: now both bottom groups are weak ChemBoy613 [7k\]: the B group is also weak Iink [-\]: *scribe* got a new weack group to attack :D ChemBoy613 [7k\]: right ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I mean K3 and L3 groups ChemBoy613 [7k\]: white isnt' strong enough to split? ChemBoy613 [7k\]: start with G6? ] ;W[gn]C[firstaid [1k\]: h7 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: elephat! ChemBoy613 [7k\]: elephan ChemBoy613 [7k\]: t Iink [-\]: *scribe* b can go out ] ;B[hm]LB[gp:B][hr:A]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: was looking at bottom group's shape ]) (;W[] ;B[kq]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* game path - l4 ])) (;AW[pb][kc][nc][dd][fd][ce][bf][cm][qm][dn][po][dp][qp][cq][qq]AB[qc][pd][cf][pf][ci][qk][cl][dl][np][fq][iq][pq][dr][qr][rr]SQ[cm][dn][dp][cq]C[Iink [-\]: yes wildseven [-\]: ohh finaly Shana [1k\]: r7 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeah Princy [1d\]: yup ChemBoy613 [7k\]: r7 is weakest ChemBoy613 [7k\]: undercut Princy [1d\]: p9 firstaid [1k\]: o6 ] ;W[]C[tenseiga [-\]: yes ] ;B[nn]C[BenBinder [16k\]: Thank you, yithril, gotta go.. volatile [10k\]: mmhm Princy [1d\]: ya Shana [1k\]: yes sir! ] ;W[om] ;B[ml] ;W[dh] ;B[di] ;W[eh] ;B[fj] ;W[fn] (;B[hn]TR[ml][hn][jn][kn][ln][nn][jo][lo][jp][kp][lp] (;W[je]C[Princy [1d\]: o9 looks sente tho Princy [1d\]: p9* ] ;B[cr] ;W[bl] ;B[bk] ;W[bm] ;B[hj] ;W[ok] ;B[pi]) (;W[cr] ;B[je])) (;B[ok] ;W[rk]C[Princy [1d\]: no Princy [1d\]: lol ] (;B[rl] ;W[ql]C[Princy [1d\]: r10 ] (;B[rj] ;W[pk] ;B[qj] ;W[pj]C[firstaid [1k\]: just s10 ]) (;B[qj] ;W[rj]C[Princy [1d\]: s11 firstaid [1k\]: o_O ] ;B[ri] ;W[rm]C[Princy [1d\]: s10 ] ;B[sj] ;W[sl]C[Princy [1d\]: hmm ])) (;B[rj] ;W[rl]C[firstaid [1k\]: yup firstaid [1k\]: b fine Princy [1d\]: s8 Princy [1d\]: but not s10 ] ;B[qj]C[Princy [1d\]: no.. ]))) (;AW[cc][dc][hc][kc][pc][cd][qd][ce][cf][df][dg][qg][cj][ck][dk][cl][cn][dn][pn][qn][jq][mq]AB[eb][ob][qb][ec][nc][dd][fd][de][cg][ch][di][dj][ek][dl][el][rm][co][qo][ro][dp][gp][np][pp]C[Two kgs 5 kyusChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes Iink [-\]: *scribe* next exemple Shana [1k\]: heh destroyed ChemBoy613 [7k\]: so white split the wrong way? yithril [2d\]: before you attack ChemBoy613 [7k\]: "maxium pain" I love it jon yithril [2d\]: you need to make it so your opponent suffers the maximum pain wildseven [-\]: o.o Shana [1k\]: ooh wildseven [-\]: attacking is control ] (;W[ej] (;B[ei] ;W[fj] ;B[fi] ;W[gj]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* w cuts ] ;B[gl] (;W[gi]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: I want your children yith ]) (;W[fn]C[tenseiga [-\]: o.o ] ;B[gn] ;W[fm] ;B[gk] ;W[gm] ;B[ik] ;W[hj] ;B[fg] ;W[ff] ;B[gf] ;W[fe] ;B[ge] ;W[ed] ;B[gc] ;W[hd] ;B[gd] ;W[gg] ;B[gh] ;W[hg] ;B[hh] ;W[ee] ;B[gb] ;W[ig] ;B[ij]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch ])) (;B[fj] ;W[ei] ;B[fi] ;W[eh]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* pain *mwahahahahaha ] ;B[hd])) (;W[ge]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* prepare b4 attack Shana [1k\]: yay all better Iink [-\]: will try it too wildseven [-\]: yes\\ ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes yes yes firstaid [1k\]: yep, this is nice and enlightening ] ;B[fe] (;W[ff] ;B[ee] ;W[gf] ;B[gb] ;W[hb] ;B[gc] (;W[ej] (;B[ei] ;W[fj] ;B[fi] ;W[gj] ;B[gi] ;W[hj] ;B[hi] ;W[ij] ;B[jh] (;W[fm]) (;W[fn])) (;B[fj] ;W[ei] ;B[fi] ;W[eh] ;B[gl])) (;W[fj] (;B[ej] ;W[fn] ;B[gk] ;W[hn] ;B[ik] ;W[cq]) (;B[fi] ;W[gj]))) (;W[gf]C[wildseven [-\]: maximum pain = getting hit in the nuts with lightning ] ;B[ff] ;W[fg] ;B[gg] ;W[fh] ;B[gd] ;W[hd] ;B[hg] ;W[he]C[Shana [1k\]: huh ] ;B[gb] ;W[hb] ;B[gc] ;W[fj] ;B[ej] ;W[fn]TR[co][dp][gp]C[Shana [1k\]: dangit i think im laggy or something Shana [1k\]: yuki sounds like a girl! Shana [1k\]: i mean yith Shana [1k\]: xD ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he doesn't at all Shana [1k\]: brb ChemBoy613 [7k\]: *smacks shana* ]))) (;AW[mb][jc][mc][kd][ld][jf][ph][mi][pi][cj][dm][dn][fn][hn][rn][fo][go][po][cp][dq][gq][kq][mq][pq]AB[dc][hc][nc][md][nd][od][qd][de][he][le][mf][ch][qi][qj][ok][qm][en][gn][io][ko][ep][gp][hp][eq][iq]C[Shuusaku vs Ota Yuzo] ;W[]LB[kg:A][lh:B][oi:C]C[firstaid [1k\]: l13 ? Shana [1k\]: m12 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: E5 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: oh lol ChemBoy613 [7k\]: XD Shana [1k\]: lol ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he wouldn't inochi33 [8k\]: p11 ChemBoy613 [7k\]: just woke up jon! wildseven [-\]: -_- ChemBoy613 [7k\]: hehe Shana [1k\]: never said u were angry xD ChemBoy613 [7k\]: :) wildseven [-\]: lol ChemBoy613 [7k\]: O11 ] ;B[lh]TR[mb][jc][mc][kd][ld]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: if you want to cut ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes ChemBoy613 [7k\]: very nice yithril [2d\]: white is in flux atthe top yithril [2d\]: we must keep the two seperated firstaid [1k\]: weird wildseven [-\]: you hungry ? Shana [1k\]: good job chem *thumbs up* firstaid [1k\]: ok Iink [-\]: somebudy was calling me ChemBoy613 [7k\]: was she cut? ChemBoy613 [7k\]: cute? ] ;W[mh]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: *pokes link* Princy [1d\]: ?_? firstaid [1k\]: i thought we attack the weaker ? Iink [-\]: oh Iink [-\]: sry ] ;B[kf] ;W[qh] ;B[qn]C[Shana [1k\]: lol ] ;W[qo]C[Iink [-\]: >.> ] ;B[rm] ;W[cc] ;B[cd] ;W[hb] ;B[gb] ;W[ib] ;B[fc] ;W[dr] ;B[fp] ;W[bd] ;B[be] ;W[bh] ;B[bg] ;W[eo] ;B[er] ;W[jr] ;B[ds] ;W[br] ;B[ir] ;W[ro] ; ;B[mk] ;W[pe] ;B[qe] ;W[qf]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B's shape is beautifl will L14 ] ;B[of] ;W[dh] ;B[ci] ;W[di] ;B[bi] ;W[bj] ;B[nb]TR[ei][fi][gi][hi][fj][hj][gk][hk][hl][hm] ;W[li] ;B[kk]TR[kk]C[volatile [10k\]: *scribe* black is walking into white's potential territory ChemBoy613 [7k\]: mmm i like the view ] ;W[kh]C[volatile [10k\]: *scribe* black keeps up the pressure and white has to live in gote ] ;B[jg] ;W[kb] ;B[lc] ;W[lb] ;B[pf] ;W[rg]C[firstaid [1k\]: I see that now :) ] ;B[rf] ;W[ri] ;B[rj])))